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Rob
Hitt:
A Chat
With A Man
Of Many Trades
By Darren Paltrowitz
The name “Rob
Hitt” isn’t one of household status, but this
could very well change in the coming months. Beyond his
role as drummer of the punk-rock band Midtown, he recently
started up a record label, I Surrender Records.
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He’s also recently founded
the community website MyOpenBar.com,
which aims to bring more attention to New York City nightlife.
Hitt and I found some time to
participate in a Q&A-via-email session.
– musicians will find
some interesting advice, while both musicians and non-musicians
alike will be impressed by Hitt’s perserverence and willingness
to work in music after so many setbacks.
Cityzen:
What do you wish more people knew about you?
Rob
Hitt: Oh, wow, interesting question to
start off with. I think the better question might even be, "What
don't you wish that people knew about?"
I think your question lends
itself to the basis of the interview in the first place, actually.
I'm very proud of my record label and the bands that I've released.
I see so many labels signing the "flavor of the month"
band or just signing a million bands in hoping that one of them
sticks to the wall or gets bought out by a major. I think this
methodology of running a record (label) is one that is killing
album sales and killing respectable music. Obviously, there are
both sides and there are great labels that pride themselves on
only releasing music they truly believe in. If a respectable label
releases music that's not your favorite, you at the least have
to respect that in comparison to what we're seeing today in the
moving worlds where the indie label and major label are now so
closely tied together with their distribution, P&D, and up-streaming
deals.
CZ:
Having been through so much turmoil with record labels, what made
you want to start up your own, I Surrender Records?
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I gotta be honest, I'm twenty-seven now, and I've wanted to
start a record label since I was sixteen, before I played
drums. I just loved music and how exciting being a part of
it can be. About three years ago, I had a few months off touring
and being that I'd been through so much, I knew that was the
time to start a label and hopefully help bands make the right
decisions. I wanted to help them learn how important developing
a "real" following is and realizing that it's more
important to have a loyal fan base than to shoot straight
to the top when the following year nobody will know about
you. I think growing up in the "punk rock / hardcore"
scene really shaped who I am and my ideals. To me, being a
successful band didn't have to do with being in magazines
or on the radio, it was about the people who listen to your
music truly care about it. |
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CZ:
I Surrender has already signed a few artists, namely – Valencia,
The Westminster Abbey, and Time & Distance. How would you
describe each of these artists to someone not yet familiar with
them?
RH:
For myself, I have to subscribe by one motto: Sign bands that
I love. That's it, really. Valencia may be more of the rock/pop-punk,
The Westminster Abbey is a sort of Beatles/Animals/Stones/Zombies
indie-hybrid, and Time & Distance are acoustic rock. I want
to work with bands that are passionate about the music they play
and willing to go the extra mile on their own.
CZ:
For the musicians reading this, what else is it that you look
for in an artist when it comes to signing them?
RH:
If you're not going to work hard for yourself, then nobody is
going to want to work with you. With downloads possibly affecting
record sales I feel labels in general are more scared to take
a risk today and their insurance policy would be working with
a band who gives 110% effort. If I could give any advice, it would
be this quite simply: Make sure when you send or hand somebody
a demo that the first song on the demo is your best song and it's
great. If it's not a great song, keep writing until you have something
you know is solid and make sure not to have one of those super
long intro songs as the first one. Eventhough I don't have a major
case of A.D.D., my attention span is still short; nonetheless,
large labels who go through a million demos. So make the music
[that] gets to the point and is really strong right away.
CZ:
Do you feel that there are any misconceptions about running a
label?
RH:
Oh man, you have no idea. There is so much that goes into running
a label. I'll tell you, it's more than any band member could ever
imagine. I've learned more about the music industry in the last
four months than the last six years of touring.
I think a misconception about
labels is that even though we think of major labels as the big
evil corporation that is ruining music, there are GOOD people
that do work at them and honestly do care about music and love
music. In comparison you have indie labels where they don't care
about credibility and will just sign a band for the money they
feel the band can produce. There's good and bad people everywhere
on both levels.
Biggest misconception, though:
Record labels make lots of money. I think the truth for most would
be: If you want to get nearly no sleep a night, lose a lot of
money, and have your friends wonder why you're becoming crazy
and pulling your hair out, well, then start a label. I do have
to admit, the reward of seeing a band grow and develope a career
actually makes it all worth it.
CZ:
Are there any goals that you're working toward with I Surrender?
RH:
My immediate goal is just getting the music out to as many people
as possible. These are great bands that deserve to get heard and
work hard so I'm trying my best to make that happen.
CZ:
What's currently going on with Midtown?
RH:
To go along with the not-getting-sleep-that's-how, we're working
on new songs now. Not sure how long the process will be, but it's
going well.
CZ:
Forget What You Know was done with Butch Walker at the
helm. What plans lie ahead for Midtown's next album?
RH:
I don't know who is producing anything in the future, but Butch
is amazing. I can say I'd have no objections at all to working
with him again, that's for sure.
CZ:
If I'm thinking clearly, Midtown has put out each of its albums
on a different label, which is nearly the case with Butch Walker.
Is that something that you guys bonded over?
RH:
Yeah, that's correct. Totally, to go through so many trials and
tribulations it really brings a band together to persevere through
it all.
CZ:
With hindsight being 20/20, many artists look back at their decisions
and regret having done such. And signing with Drive-Thru/MCA seems
to have been one of such with Midtown. Was that fence ever mended,
or have your viewpoints shifted?
RH:
In terms of Drive-Thru, the way I look at it is as a bad break-up
you had with your girlfriend. You break up, and it's terrible,
and you have so much hate for the person. But after a while life
goes on and you meet a new girl you're even happier with, and
you remember that you were friends with the original girl for
a reason. So now that all that bad break up stuff is gone, you
can be friends again. One thing I've learned is that time heals
a lot of wounds, even deep ones.
CZ:
If a band were asking you for advice as to what they shouldn't
do within their first few years of existence, what would you advise?
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RH:
Music, music, music. Make sure the songs are there first and
foremost. There's no reason to start playing a million shows
if the songs aren't there. Once you have the songs, then that's
the time to go out. Book your own tours, record a good quality
demo. Use the Internet to promote your band. If you can work
your ass off to create a buzz, good things will happen. One
you start having labels, lawyers, or managers start sniffing
around, go with your gut. I wish I had gone with my gut more
often than I did because, believe it or not, it was more reliable
than any knowledge. |
CZ:
Do you think that the New York music scene is as great as people
say that is? If so, who are some of the other acts that readers
of Cityzen ought to check out?
RH:
Well, the thing about the NYC music scene is that you would imagine
it's all hipster – Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs stuff –
but it's such a huge city that it's more diverse than anybody
would imagine. Is it as great as people say? Man, I'd have to
say yes, NYC is the one place just about every tour will always
come through so we're very VERY fortunate. Some New York bands?
Bayside! Like Yesterday, Say Anything, Nightmare Of You, I Am
The Avalanche, and Americana. Probably didn't realize those were
NYC bands, huh?
CZ:
Speaking of NYC, you've created quite an interesting website with
MyOpenBar. What are your plans for the site?
RH:
Ha, that's great you found that. My plans for that site are nothing
more than supplying myself with a great source of free booze in
this expensive city. I felt it would be unfair to not let the
world know about all the free alcohol!
CZ:
When not consumed with music or drink specials, what do you like
to do with yourself?
RH:
That's a little personal, don't ya think? Ha!
CZ:
Finally, Rob, any last words for the readers?
RH:
You guys gotta hear the new Valencia album, it's out October 25th.
This band works their asses off. At the least, give them a chance
-- http://www.valenciamusic.net.